Number Eleven Posted June 14, 2022 Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 I think the goalies are entitled to dance around, in the same way the a penalty taker can hop and skip to try to put the goalie off. The penalty shootout is a psychological battle and so trying to put off your opponent is part of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted June 14, 2022 Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, Number Eleven said: I think the goalies are entitled to dance around, in the same way the a penalty taker can hop and skip to try to put the goalie off. The penalty shootout is a psychological battle and so trying to put off your opponent is part of that. Agreed - but it's similarly undignified when they do it! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Riva Posted June 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Number Eleven said: I think the goalies are entitled to dance around, in the same way the a penalty taker can hop and skip to try to put the goalie off. The penalty shootout is a psychological battle and so trying to put off your opponent is part of that. I yearn for the time when the keeper had to keep his feet rooted to the goal line until the ball was kicked and the kicker was only permitted a straight run without all the faffing about. Simple and straightforward. The more the law makers tamper with the Laws of the Game, the more they screw it up. Just look at what they've done to the offside law and handball. 😨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 14, 2022 Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 16 hours ago, GG Riva said: Just watched the highlights. The Aussies brought on their sub goalie for the penalty shoot out and he danced around on his goal line before every Peru pen, in a blatant attempt to put the kickers off. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61771218 The Aussies probably deserved to win, but how can that kind of gamesmanship be within the rules? Big up the keeper here, boys done a great job and made himself a hero. Not an easy role to be chucked into. He’s not done a single thing wrong. 15 hours ago, DA-go Par Adonis said: I thought he was more of a hindrance to himself to be honest. I guess it worked as they got through. It’s obvious tough to time being set right for the shot but if he gets it right fair play. 14 hours ago, GG Riva said: Whatever happened to the Corinthian ideal in sport? Maybe the player who missed the decisive kick should have run up and booted him in the baws. 😃 Keeper should have run up to the striker and given him double Vs. Miss a penalty and it’s on your head and your head only. If you want to blame anyone else get it right up ye. 12 hours ago, GG Riva said: It's more than "A wee bit silly", SP. It's a cynical strategy to increase the already considerable pressure on the kicker. I would like to see us go back to the keeper not being able to move before the ball is kicked. 1. THATS HIS JOB. 2. absolutely get ****ed with that idea , strikers have a ridiculous advantage as things stand, keepers must do everything they can to try and equalise the balance. If we want things to be equal the simply say both striker and keeper must stay still until whistle is blown and then both can move, soon stop strikers acting the ****. 9 hours ago, SanguinePar said: Another twist... This keeper looks increasingly like a bit of a p***k This is ****ing glorious. Mon the keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted June 15, 2022 Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 Much clearer footage: I can't see how this is glorious. It's pathetic behaviour IMO. I hope the Aussies get stuffed at the WC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Soze Posted June 15, 2022 Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 58 minutes ago, SanguinePar said: Much clearer footage: I can't see how this is glorious. It's pathetic behaviour IMO. I hope the Aussies get stuffed at the WC. C’mon man, lighten up. It’s tremendous behaviour. I’d be fully supportive of our ‘keeper doing similar to win us a game tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 15, 2022 Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyser Soze said: C’mon man, lighten up. It’s tremendous behaviour. I’d be fully supportive of our ‘keeper doing similar to win us a game tbh. I’m not so sure, IMO he’s not considered the full extent of his actions… Would have been better to have nicked the bottle and tried to give his strikers a heads up on where the keeper would go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxpar Posted June 15, 2022 Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 He saved one penalty out of six and acted like a twat. Can’t believe Keyser has lost his moral compass 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutsch Par Posted June 15, 2022 Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 It's an opportunity to qualify for the grandest stage in world football. Take every advantage you can. Maybe not gentlemanly or whatever but the ends justify the means imo. It will be forgotten about in a few days never mind when the World Cup is played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digs Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 I’m all behind this keeper to be honest. If you’re incapable of remembering which way players go for their pens then that’s on you. On another note, a story of Martin Boyle’s celebrations in four parts… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Digs said: I’m all behind this keeper to be honest. If you’re incapable of remembering which way players go for their pens then that’s on you. It's not necessarily a question of being incapable (although, so what if he was? Are we saying people with bad memories aren't allowed to play now?) The fact is that this was a piece of the keeper's equipment, which the other guy had no business touching let alone throwing away. If he had thrown away the guys gloves or boots, would that be ok too? It shows a complete lack of professional respect (not to mention self-respect). I would never want to win like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Digs said: I’m all behind this keeper to be honest. If you’re incapable of remembering which way players go for their pens then that’s on you. On another note, a story of Martin Boyle’s celebrations in four parts… Notes for penalties are fairly common. But if you're going to use them then be a bit smart about it and not leave it lying around for the other team, tho you can probably bet he won't do it again. Its the same when a note comes on with tactical changes, every once in a while somebody gets caught napping and have an opponent nick it out their hands, but most of the time the notes are tucked away into socks and only handed around/read when there's no opponent about. Fair play to boyle, looks like he enjoyed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digs Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 hours ago, SanguinePar said: It's not necessarily a question of being incapable (although, so what if he was? Are we saying people with bad memories aren't allowed to play now?) The fact is that this was a piece of the keeper's equipment, which the other guy had no business touching let alone throwing away. If he had thrown away the guys gloves or boots, would that be ok too? It shows a complete lack of professional respect (not to mention self-respect). I would never want to win like that. No, I’m saying if you’re going to try to gain an advantage by bringing little notes into the park then it’s tough titties if your opponent removes that advantage by getting rid of the note if you leave it lying about. A water bottle isn’t equipment either, he doesn’t need one to be a goalkeeper. Finally, nice guys finish last. He didn’t cheat, he just beat the guy at his own game. Personally, I’d want my players to kick their grannie to win a game as important as that and get it right up their opponents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Soze Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 17 hours ago, SanguinePar said: It shows a complete lack of professional respect (not to mention self-respect). I would never want to win like that. Would you rather lose a Scottish Cup final to Raith Rovers on penalties than win with our ‘keeper behaving like the Aussie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Keyser Soze said: Would you rather lose a Scottish Cup final to Raith Rovers on penalties than win with our ‘keeper behaving like the Aussie? Yes. Well, maybe... it's not that I would want to lose exactly. But I wouldn't want to win like that (which is what I said). Considering it further, I probably would still want to win, I guess - but something like that would spoil it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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