Grant Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 25 minutes ago, Al k said: Sharp had a couple of horrors sure, but hes a massive upgrade on Memhet for me. If I remember rightly had decent distribution and actually found players when he went long too. Really not getting your logic there tbf. In the few games he played he had a couple of horrors and he's a massive upgrade because he had better long passing? Not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digs Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 27 minutes ago, Al k said: Sharp had a couple of horrors sure, but hes a massive upgrade on Memhet for me. If I remember rightly had decent distribution and actually found players when he went long too. Disagree. I don’t think he’s even at Mehmet level. He played a handful of games and chucked in at least three goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelty_par Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 6 minutes ago, Digs said: Disagree. I don’t think he’s even at Mehmet level. He played a handful of games and chucked in at least three goals. And how many goals has mehmet chucked in since he came back from injury last September? Plenty. Even Mcpake has now called him out post match a few times for errors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 Mehmet is in poor form just now, he is a notably better goalkeeper than sharp tho. I'd also note that whilst the cliche of if you make a mistake as a goalkeeper it will likely result in a goal is true, a lot of mehmets mistakes are ones that can be made up for, wether that's a misplaced pass that we can defend from or a punch that should have gone further you are at least giving defenders the opportunity to get to the ball first. Sharps mistakes meant the ball is already in the net. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al k Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 28 minutes ago, Grant said: Really not getting your logic there tbf. In the few games he played he had a couple of horrors and he's a massive upgrade because he had better long passing? Not for me. You aren't at all, that's not quite what I said. By all the comments I have remembered him wrongly. Thought he played more than he had with the two mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digs Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 30 minutes ago, kelty_par said: And how many goals has mehmet chucked in since he came back from injury last September? Plenty. Even Mcpake has now called him out post match a few times for errors I’m not disagreeing, but bringing Sharpe solves none of those problems does he? He’s worse, that’s my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digs Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 20 minutes ago, parsforlife said: Mehmet is in poor form just now, he is a notably better goalkeeper than sharp tho. I'd also note that whilst the cliche of if you make a mistake as a goalkeeper it will likely result in a goal is true, a lot of mehmets mistakes are ones that can be made up for, wether that's a misplaced pass that we can defend from or a punch that should have gone further you are at least giving defenders the opportunity to get to the ball first. Sharps mistakes meant the ball is already in the net. Absolutely. He’s not at fault for all of the goals attributed to him, far from it. People have just made up their minds he’s garbage now therefore every goal we concede is his fault. Most of the time it’s a combination of him and atrocious defending. Our defence gets off far too lightly at times, just look at the amount of goals we concede from set pieces. Mehmet has been poor but if we’re quoting McPake, he also said that it’s obvious he’s struggling for form and he (McPake) can’t do anything about it as he’s normally take him out and let him get his confidence back. As it stands, he’s been hung out to dry by having no challenge to help him be better or replace him when it needs done. Instead, his already shaky confidence is getting battered further. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelty_par Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 17 minutes ago, Digs said: I’m not disagreeing, but bringing Sharpe solves none of those problems does he? He’s worse, that’s my point. Na totally agree, it would actually sum up our horrendous transfer ‘strategy’ if he did sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 28 minutes ago, Digs said: He’s not at fault for all of the goals attributed to him, far from it. People have just made up their minds he’s garbage now therefore every goal we concede is his fault. It's Chris Smith all over again. Mistakes? Yes. As many as people said? Not nearly. Barracked by a portion of his own fans, during matches as if that would somehow help? Yep. History may not repeat, but it sure does rhyme sometimes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Patrón Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 The players have no confidence in him either and there was a few occasions on Saturday where the easy ball was back to him from the defence and they went out their way to avoid it and preferred to turn and put it out the park or lump it. Even all the old duffers in the main stand gave a sarcastic “waaaaayyyyy” when he managed to catch a simple cross on Saturday against Cove. Just wait until there’s a full crowd in there on his back. He needs a replacement ASAP He’s a half decent shot stopper, but he is too hesitant at coming off his line and his distribution is garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 48 minutes ago, El Patrón said: Even all the old duffers in the main stand gave a sarcastic “waaaaayyyyy” when he managed to catch a simple cross on Saturday W***ers. Like I said, it's Chris Smith all over again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 2 hours ago, SanguinePar said: It's Chris Smith all over again. Mistakes? Yes. As many as people said? Not nearly. Barracked by a portion of his own fans, during matches as if that would somehow help? Yep. History may not repeat, but it sure does rhyme sometimes. On Chris Smith he did get a shed load of abuse which absolutely won't help. However his first game back in the SPL after Gallagher got injured at Tynecastle was wild. He'd lost allot of weight, I remember the Norrie giving him a big reception when he ran to the goals, loads of clapping and support. Everyone wanted him to succeed. Punched a ball into the net from a corner half an hour in, was also at fault for the second goal. You'd have been as well as relegating us then. I think the Mehmet situation played out just last season with McCann, he started the season on fire, gradually lost some form, instead of him being taken out, maybe used as an impact sub for a couple of weeks etc he was ran into the ground because we had no one else. Form went through the floor, his head went down, the fans got on his back, was brutal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secure Par Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 Tbh and Mehmet is a liability but the balls got to get through 10 players on the pitch before Mehmet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superally Posted July 30 Author Report Share Posted July 30 Mehmet has been at fault for some and that makes him an easy target. However the defence in many of the friendlies and cup games has been barely competent and equally questions have to be asked of them as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piracy Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 I hate when players get singled out for abuse and unsubstantiated abuse at that and for usually for no other reason than the perpetrator being a twisted fud. Yeah get on the players case when they're out of order etc, but, come on min, look at the whole team just now. I say get off his case. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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